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The Pitching Mechanic
March 2009

Real-Time Illustrations and Analyses of
Proper and Improper Pitching Mechanics

 

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3/18/2009

Where Has Joba Chamberlain's Velocity Gone?

I just read a report that Joba Chamberlain's velocity has been down this Spring. Unexplained velocity problems are often an indicator of shoulder problems, and this may be related to Joba Chamberlain's borderline Inverted L and resulting timing problem.

 

3/17/2009

GetGreat.com's Not So Great Pitching Advice

I stumbled across a new site called GetGreat.com, which is evidently a joint venture between (Cal) Ripken Baseball and MLB.com. I haven't had a chance to review much of the material on the site, but some of the pitching materials I have reviewed are either dangerous or incorrect.
     First, in terms of the dangerous advice, there is this line that accompanies the lesson entitled "Proper Throwing: Hand Above the Ball."

Your hand should remain above the ball until your arm comes forward, at which point should actually move behind the ball; this creates arm action and torque.

The problem with this advice is that at a minimum it isn't necessary to throwing well or hard and in the worst case trying to keep the hand above the ball during the arm swing and in the high-cocked position can lead to elbow and shoulder problems.
     There is nothing wrong, and much that is good, with keeping the hand on the side of the ball and showing the ball to Third Base as you come out of your hand break. That's why Juan Marichal, despite keeping his hand under the ball during his arm swing, was still able to do OK.
     Second, they seem to use the term "arm action" without knowing what it really means. Every pitcher has arm action; it is simply what the pitcher's arm does as they throw the ball. The question is whether a pitcher's arm action is good or not. I assume that they mean that keeping the hand above the ball promotes good arm action, but as I point out above this is debatable.
     Third, in terms of the incorrect advice, there is this line at the end of the lesson entitled "Proper Throwing: Hand Above the Ball."

You'll see that each one of these pitchers' arms forms an L, with the elbow slightly above the shoulder at the release point.

This point is so important that they reiterate it in the accompanying text.

If you’ve done everything properly, your arm should form an L at the release point, with your elbow slightly above your shoulder.

The problem is that the moment in time they illustrate in the video clip isn't the release point, it's the high-cocked or power position when the shoulders start to rotate. I'm not sure if they chose the wrong moment in time in the clip or if they, like many people, believe that a pitcher's arm slot is determined by the angle of the elbow at the release point (when in truth it's determined by the tilt of their shoulders at the release point).
    Finally, it is very obvious from the clip of Brad Lidge at the high-cocked or power position that accompanies the "Proper Throwing: Hand Above the Ball" lesson that his elbow isn't slightly above the level of his shoulders. Instead, his elbow is slightly below the level of his shoulders.
     I know that I could again be accused of picking nits by pointing all of this out. However, do it because I guarantee you that well-meaning parents and coaches will read this stuff and try to ensure that their pitchers do this. By doing so they will increase their pitchers' injury risk and confuse them about important concepts like arm slot.

P.S. I'm in the middle of working on my Pitching Mechanics 101 DVD right now, and one of the things I discuss in the DVD are some of the myths of pitching mechanics. As a result, I pulled out my copy of Play Baseball The Ripken Way to see what it said about pitching mechanics and where the ideas on GetGreat.com may have come from. It turns out that Play Baseball The Ripken Way puts forth the same basic misconceptions as the GetGreat.com web site.
     With respect to the question of keeping the fingers on top of the ball and arm action, Play Baseball The Ripken Way has this to say on Page 76...

The key is to make sure that the hand and fingers are on top of the ball...

This text is accompanied by a photo on Page 77 of a player showing the ball to Second Base/Center Field with his fingers on top of the ball.
     The problem is that showing the ball to Second Base/Center Field can lead to elbow problems by inducing premature pronation. It can also lead to shoulder problems by creating a timing problem and/or an impingement injury due to hyperabduction.

...This will allow the pitcher to create arm action. Arm action is created when the hand goes from above the ball to behind the ball when a pitcher is throwing.

As I say above, every pitcher has arm action; a pitcher's arm action is simply a description of what their arm does after they break their hands and as they pass through the high-cocked or power position and get to the release point. When it comes to arm action, the real question is whether it's good or not. If you show the ball to Second Base/Center Field, then your arm action is much less likely to be good (or at least safe) than if you show the ball to Third Base.

Focusing on the throwing arm, it's at this point that the hand goes from above the ball to behind the ball. As the arm comes forward, the pitcher should keep the elbow slightly above the shoulder in order to create an L with the throwing arm. Each pitcher's L will vary depending on the position of the arm slot.

The quote above makes it clear that the Ripken's, or at least whoever wrote this part of the book, believe that a pitcher's arm slot is driven by the angle of the elbow at the release point when in truth arm slot is driven by the tilt of the shoulders at the release point.

Jeff Suppan's Arm Slot

Jeff Suppan's Arm Slot

 

3/16/2009

Brandon McCarthy's Shoulder is Acting Up Again

I was catching up on the latest news over at Yahoo Sports when I came across a blurb that mentioned that Brandon McCarthy was having shoulder stiffness and had to be scratched from a start. The blurb was accompanied by the photo below, which makes clear the root cause of Brandon McCarthy's problems.

Brandon McCarthy

Brandon McCarthy

Notice that in the photo above that Brandon McCarthy is scap loading, but he is doing so with his Pitching Arm Side (PAS) elbow above and behind his shoulders (as happens when a pitcher makes the Inverted W or Inverted V). That is a recipe for shoulder problems due to impingement and timing-related overload issues.
     It also looks like Brandon McCarthy pulls back with his Glove Side (GS) arm before his PAS forearm is vertical, which is only going to make his timing problems worse.
     Frequent readers of this blog will notice that this isn't the first time that Brandon McCarthy's name and pitching mechanics have come up. Back in August 2008, I addressed Brandon McCarthy's pitching mechanics in a piece entitled Do Altered Pitching Mechanics Lead to Injuries?
     The answer then, as now, was that -- like Mark Prior's supposedly perfect pitching mechanics -- the root cause of Brandon McCarthy's problems isn't that his pitching mechanics have changed. Rather the root cause of Brandon McCarthy's problem is that his pitching mechanics were never very good in the first place and they are starting to take their toll on his shoulder.

P.S. In the background of this photo is a person who most likely is the Texas Rangers' pitching coach. He is watching Brandon McCarthy pitch, but unfortunately he is watching him with his naked eyes, which simply aren't up to the task when it comes to evaluating a pitcher's mechanics. The only way to see the stuff that really matters, in both pitchers and hitters, is with video (even just plain old 30 or 60 Frame Per Second (FPS) video).

 

3/12/2009

Mark Prior, Tom House, A$$es, and Boat Paddles

A reader just pointed me to an interesting piece by Jeff Passan entitled Pristine Mechanics Caused Prior Pain that discusses the relationship between Tom House, Mark Prior, Mark Prior's pitching mechanics, and Mark Prior's injury problems. Here are some of the more interesting quotes...

(Tom) House pitched in the major leagues for eight seasons before retiring, getting his Ph.D. in psychology and styling himself a pitching guru. When he watched the gangly Prior as a sophomore in high school, House saw the perfect specimen to build into the ultimate pitcher. For the next six years, he put Prior on a specific diet, ran blood work regularly, schooled him in mental acuity and, most important, imparted all of the lessons he had learned from high-speed-video and computer studies about proper mechanics to avoid injury.
     Because he was a computerized athlete,” House said, “he was supposed to be perfect.”

So in other words, Tom House was indeed heavily involved in crafting Mark Prior's pitching mechanics.

House, now the pitching coach at USC and no longer working with Prior, does not believe the Inverted W hurts a pitcher’s arm. He said years of science and research support his methods. Same with doctors at the American Sports Medicine Institute, including famed surgeon James Andrews.
     And to those who make a fuss about the Inverted W and point out that House’s prized student has been laid up for years? Well, House said, “They don’t know their asses from a boat paddle.”

The problem is that Tom House isn't really objective when it comes to the Inverted W. He likely taught it to Mark Prior, and it would be very hard for him to admit that he likely contributed to the destruction of Mark Prior's arm.

“For a four-year stretch, everything was good, and then it suddenly happens?” Prior said. “Who knows? There may be some validity to the people who say it’s mechanics. I’m not changing. I don’t think there’s anything I specifically do that has caused my injuries. No one’s ever going to be able to tell me for certain that it is, either.
     “Look, this is the way I throw. It’s another one of Tom’s philosophies. He’s got 1,000. But one I do believe is that the way you throw is the way you throw. And you have to make it work with the other fundamentals. Everyone wants to know why I hurt it. Fine. It could be my mechanics. It could be my workload. That doesn’t change the situation I’m in now.”

I would love to get some video of Mark Prior's mechanics before and after Tom House worked with him in high school. Based on the arm action you see in Anthony Reyes and Ian Kennedy, the odds are that Tom House likely taught Mark Prior (and Reyes and Kennedy) to get his Pitching Arm Side elbow up, likely to increase the whippiness of his arm.

“I think he’s got a good delivery,” Black said. “Good mechanics. Good fundamentally. Sound thrower.”...
    “I’m not saying they’re the be-all, end-all, but they’re major-league pitching coaches,” Prior said. “If something was really wrong, don’t you think they’d change things?”

The only possible explanations for these quotes are that Bud Black either hasn't spent enough time comparing pitchers to each other (rather than to themselves) or he hasn't spent enough time looking at high speed film of his pitchers and instead only looks at pitchers with the naked eye (which is an unfortunately all too common mistake).

Traditional pitching coaches still see Prior’s delivery in all of its six-years-ago splendor, and knowing how effective it was, they’re loath to change it. Prior has worked with only the Cubs’ Larry Rothschild and the Padres’ Darren Balsley – along with Black, a former pitching coach – and none has suggested he tinker with how he throws.

While not messing with a pitcher absolutely makes sense if he's just hit a minor bump in the road, you would think that someone would try to improve Mark Prior's mechanics after he broke down as many times as he has.

House believes the overuse by Baker doomed Prior. Eight pitchers this decade have thrown 109 or more pitches in nine straight games, and half of them needed reconstructive arm surgery. The only other pitchers this decade to throw at least four 130-plus-pitch games in a season, let alone in two months, are Livan Hernandez and Randy Johnson.

I have never been impressed by overuse-based arguments, and metrics like Pitcher Abuse Points (PAP) and PAP3, precisely for the reasons cited above. If abuse only explains half (or really less) of the variance between two groups, that means that something else explains the rest of the variance. In my opinion that something else is pitching mechanics and I believe that differences in pitching mechanics explain why some pitchers are able to tolerate abuse while others are destroyed by it.
     If you compare Mark Prior and Randy Johnson, you will notice some major differences between their pitching mechanics.

Mark Prior

Mark Prior's Inverted W

Randy Johnson

Randy Johnson's Standard W

In particular, you will notice that while Mark Prior makes the Inverted W and takes his elbows both above and behind his shoulders, Randy Johnson makes the Standard W and his elbows never get above the level of his shoulders.
     I would absolutely love to spend some time with Mark Prior and try to explain to him what's going on and why. I'm not sure I could fix him due to the muscle memory issues -- it might be easier to teach him to throw left-handed than it would be to remodel his right-handed arm action -- but it would certainly be worth a shot.
     In order to get Mark Prior as far as possible away from his current mechanics, I would probably teach him to use a Greg Maddux type, low elbow arm action rather than a more neutral Roger Clemens type arm action.
     If you know Mark Prior, his agent, or someone who knows him, tell him to call me on my cell at 314.494.1324.

 

3/11/2009

A Revised Baseball Pitching Cycle

Given the problems with the NPA's Sequence of Critical Events model that I discuss below, I just put together an article that describes a Revised Baseball Pitching Cycle and that does a better job of explaining what happens when during a throw.

 

3/11/2009

Problems with the NPA's Sequence of Critical Events

I was on a web site last night and came across a post by a fan of Tom House and the National Pitching Association (NPA). He linked to a page that contained a discussion of the NPA's beliefs about what happens when during a throw. As I quickly discovered, the NPA's Sequence of Critical Events model is flawed.

 

3/9/2009

Dave Bush Makes Me Nervous

I'm mostly just throwing this out there, but Dave Bush of the Brewers make me nervous. I have tons of photos in my files of him making what looks like the Inverted L, demonstrating a generally problematic arm action, and exhibiting fairly linear lower body mechanics.

Dave Bush

Dave Bush

I'm trying to find some video of Dave Bush to see what his timing looks like. I want to see if his arm action actually creates a timing problem or if, like Ian Kennedy, he isn't (quite) as bad as he looks.

 

3/9/2009

Mike Marshall's Miffed (at) Me

The other day I was told that I should check out Dr. Mike Marshal's web site. I came across this item in his 2009 Q&A files...

224.  Hi, I'm 17, a Jr. in high school, and I'm a pitcher.  I just had surgery on my shoulder (torn labrum) last April due to a change in bad mechanics according to Chris O'Leary's "inverted W".
     I'm looking for some advice/help to get back on track.  Before I had my surgery I was clocked at 75 mph when I was only 14.  So I proportioned it to what I would be throwing once I turned 18.  And I got 96 mph.
     So this is the track I want to be back on.  But, after my surgery, I've seen a tremendous drop in arm strength and velocity, which is to be expected.  Is there anyway, that you think that is best, I can throw like I did before.
     Some questions I have are:  Should I do long-toss to rebuild arm-strength and go back to my old mechanics so it doesn't hurt again when I pitch?  Or can you give me some suggestions that can help me out?


First, why would anybody do anything that Chris O'Leary says?  Did you bother to read his credentials?  He had none.  The first thing in life that you need to learn is who knows what they are talking about and who does not.  Chris O'Leary knows nothing.  In our buyer beware society, you have to educate yourself enough to know to whom you should listen...
     Second, that what Chris O'Leary recommends that baseball pitchers do caused this young man to tear his Labrum should be legally actionable.  Mr. O'Leary has absolutely no business telling baseball pitchers how to do anything.  He has no training.
     But, what is worse, he has no ethics.  He has caused this seventeen year old serious pain and suffering.  Why is that not assault?  In my mind, Mr. O'Leary is no better than a mugger.  He should be ashamed, humiliated.  At the very least, he should send this young man a sincere apology and remove everything that he has ever said from the internet.

Just to be clear, I didn't teach this man to make the Inverted W. Instead, he apparently diagnosed himself using my web site. He contacted me before he contacted Dr. Marshall and I assume he ended up at Dr. Mike Marshall's web site as a result of what I say about Dr. Marshall on my own web site.
     It is because of these kinds of "friendly fire" incidents that my enthusiasm for Dr. Marshall has waned over the years. It isn't just some of his ideas that are problematic and often counter-productive.
     It's his entire approach.

P.S. And in case you, like some, are wondering if I informed Dr. Marshall that he had likely simply misunderstood what the young man was saying, I sent Dr. Marshall two e-mails explaining that I thought he misunderstood what the person in question was saying. That included this one...

I know that the person in question's original e-mail to you wasn't totally clear, so just to be clear I didn't teach this young man to make the Inverted W. I haven't even seen him or worked with him. He just contacted me after using my web site to diagnose that the root cause of his problem was most likely his making the Inverted W.
     He contacted you wanting to know how he should remodel his arm action once his shoulder is fixed.
     Most everyone knows that I, like you, absolutely HATE the Inverted W, as this essay suggests.

...and this one...

Here is the first e-mail I received from ____ back in July...

"Hi, my name is ____. I am 16 years old, about 6 ft. tall, and weigh about 160lbs. I am also a baseball pitcher. I just recently had surgery on my shoulder and I'm trying to work my way back onto the mound again. But I wanted to make sure that I use the proper mechanics this time. I watched and studied the mechanics of A.J. Burnett, and later tried to imitate him because I thought it could help increase my velocity. (this was before i had any knowledge of his past injuries and/ or your website) Then, after I was informed about tearing a ligament in my shoulder, I googled my injury and came across your website."

As you can see, ____, like many players, decided to copy the mechanics of a player that he liked. Unfortunately, he chose AJ Burnett and ended up destroying his shoulder.
     He then contacted me when he found out through my web site that copying AJ Burnett was a VERY bad idea and likely the root cause of his shoulder problems.

Marshall didn't care and replied to me with...

Whether this young man followed your advice or not is not the point. The point is that you do not have the credentials to write anything about baseball pitching.

...and...

My readers have sent me several things that you have written, including comments about what I teach. You have no idea that you have no idea what you are talking about. If we are ever going to eliminate pitching injuries, then guys like you have to stop polluting the message. But, you are not the only one. In addition to House, Nyman, Mills and the other blood-sucking profiteers, you can add Drs. Fleisig and Andrews to the obstructions to eliminating pitching injuries. The right answer would have been to send this young man to my website.

I could say a lot more, but let me simply say that this isn't a productive approach that Dr. Marshall has adopted.

 

3/4/2009

Mark Prior's "Perfect" Pitching Mechanics

I just completed a fairly long and detailed essay in which I attempt to lay out the history and context of the meme/myth of Mark Prior's perfect pitching mechanics.

 

3/4/2009

With Some Misses (Hopefully) Come More Hits

I guarantee you that some people will use my recent revisions/enhancements of my opinions of Justin Verlander (see below) and Jeff Francis to make the case that I don't know what I'm talking about.
     I would respond by saying that I am trying to be as scientific as possible about my process of analyzing pitchers. One aspect of the scientific process is to formulate a theory, make predictions based on that theory, and then see how those predictions work out. When there are differences between what you predict will happen and what actually happens, you don't just give up. Instead, you re-examine your theory, revise it, and make a new set of predictions and see if they are more right then your first set of predictions. You then continue that very iterative process, hopefully getting closer to an understanding of the truth with each iteration.
     In other words, my misses with Freddy Garcia, Justin Verlander, and Jeff Francis haven't shaken my confidence. Instead, they have just exposed the holes in my knowledge and told me what I need to pay more attention to.
     I hope the same is true for you.

 

3/3/2009

Justin Verlander Revisited

Anyone who is familiar with my work knows that I am a fan of the arm action of Justin Verlander. He scap loads correctly and his timing is good as a result.
     However, Justin Verlander has seen his velocity decline over the past few years, which is sometimes the harbinger of a shoulder (usually Labrum) problem. As a result, I recently took another look at Justin Verlander's pitching mechanics and noticed something that I think may be relevant.

Video Clip of Justin Verlander

Justin Verlander

The thing to notice is Justin Verlander's extremely linear lower body action and how early he starts to open his hips. Notice how his Glove Side (GS) leg goes pretty much up, down, and then directly toward the target.

Justin Verlander

Justin Verlander

Justin Verlander

Justin Verlander

The two stills above also show that Justin Verlander's hips open quite early. Notice how his GS toe is already pointing at the target well before his Pitching Arm Side (PAS) forearm is vertical and in the high-cocked position.

Greg Maddux

Greg Maddux

If you look at videos of durable pitchers like Greg Maddux, you will see that their lower bodies are more rotational. Rather than going up, down, and directly at the target, their GS feet tend to go up, down, and then out and around into foot plant. Rotational pitchers like Greg Maddux also point their GS toes at the target, and open up their hips, significantly later than do linear pitchers like Justin Verlander.
     So why is this important?
     This is important because you could argue that a rotational lower body is more efficient that a linear lower body because it better enables the pitcher to tap into the muscles of the core. Pitchers who use more linear lower body mechanics may be less efficient and may have to throw more arm-y as a result, which may increase the load on the shoulder.

Brad Penny

Brad Penny

While I don't have any video to back my hunch up, the photo above suggests that Brad Penny's shoulder problems could be explained in part by an less efficient, overly linear stride and by opening up his hips too soon.

Video Clip of Rich Harden

Rich Harden

You could also make a similar argument about Rich Harden, which is another injury-plagued guy without a glaring mechanical flaw. It could be that his mechanics are just inefficient enough to make him more arm-y than average and thus more prone to injury.

Video Clip of Mark Prior

Mark Prior

Video Clip of Mark Prior

Mark Prior

Finally, it may also not be a coincidence that you see very linear lower body mechanics in Mark Prior.

 

The Pitching Mechanic - February 2009

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